Pejoratively dubbed “combat Tupperware” by old-school purists when first introduced in the early-1980’s, the Glock 17 ushered in a new era of combat handgun technology. With extensive use of high-tech polymers and modern manufacturing techniques, the Glock’s simplicity, durability, and low cost to produce blew away early competition in handgun modernization bake-offs and was quickly adopted as a NATO-classified sidearm surpassing stringent standards including no more than 20 (even minor) jams or malfunctions per 10,000 rounds fired. Today, surveys indicate that Glocks are the standard- issue firearm for the majority of law enforcement agencies in the US and command the lion’s share of hardware at USPSA (United States Practical Shooting Association) Production-Class shooting competitions. And I can personally attest to their performance.
After my disappointing experience with the M&P at a steel-plate shooting match (see previous post), I switched over to a Glock and have been problem-free ever since. Where the M&P was plagued with issues ranging from an annoying false-trigger reset, to light-striker misfires, to failures to feed, my Glock 17 shot perfectly right out of the box and has never looked back. After literally thousands of rounds I can’t recall a single malfunction including even a minor jam of ANY sort. Carl from Chicago even borrowed my Glock for an all-day 500-round training course at Blackwater where, despite the foul weather and Carl’s admitted tendencies toward clumsily sprouting multiple-thumbs, the Glock served perfectly.
Compared to the supple feel of an M&P, picking up a Glock is a little bit like gripping a two-by-four. But I’ve found that blocky grip to be comforting in a way. Harder edges leave no doubt where your hands are placed meaning consistent draws time after time.
I’ve found accuracy to be excellent. Follow-up shots are easily controllable and the definitive “clunk” of the trigger reset is tactile and easily felt through a flood of adrenaline in the heat of competition. To wit, I tried some free-hand shooting on 8” paper plates at both 21’ and 35’ at the range the other day (trading off with my father in law to help neutralize any user-error ) and got some decent combat-quality groupings. While I don’t expect a stock Glock to ever rival my match-grade 1911 for pinpoint accuracy, sometimes good is good enough.
With only 33 parts, the Glock is simple to strip and maintain. OEM and after-market parts are plentiful allowing an array of simple modifications from extended mag releases, to night sights, to heavier tungsten guide-rods. In another post, I’ll detail a 30-second trigger job which lowers the pull weight from the factory standard 5.5lbs to 3.5 in 60-seconds for about $10-bucks with a drop-in part. One caution for the ammo reloader, however. Unlike traditional cut-groove barrel manufacturing, Glock uses a polygonal rifling technique. The benefits purportedly include a better gas seal around the bullet which results in more consistent velocities and accuracy. Unfortunately, that tighter seal can result in rapid lead residue buildup when firing cast bullets (i.e. non-jacketed) ultimately clogging the barrel. The internet is rife with photos of “blown glocks” by hapless shooters who ignored the warning – essentially destroying a $500 weapon for the sake a saving a few pennies on ammo.
After returning my M&P to the factory for service and being denied a fix under their supposed world-class warranty program, I’ve since sold the pistol back to the shop where I bought it and will likely never touch another Smith & Wesson automatic again. Let them stick to revolvers.
My sentiment was recently backed up by one of my Blackwater instructors who sent me the following email after being an early supporter of the M&P:
“After extensive trials with the M&P, I decided to go back to the Glock for a variety of reasons (simplicity, ruggedness, and above all, accuracy). I really liked the M&P’s ergonomics, but found it very deficient accuracy-wise (as have other trainers at other schools). As long as you don’t expect better than 8-10” groups at 25 yds, it is OK. In comparison, Glocks routinely shoot groups have that size even after thousands of rounds. I also found the M&P somewhat fragile compared to the Glock.”
Enough said.

13 comments:
I was ready to sell my Glock until I recently had some professional instruction. Big difference. The local outdoor range is run by a neighbor who also trains law enforcement professionals (many of them shoot more poorly than I) .We at shot steel plates and after a few minutes with him my accuracy was greatly improved. I even participated in a local police night shoot after he installed tritium sights on my model 22. Magic. Did good too. No way would I part with it now.
Nice write up... I just bought the little brother, Glock 19, mainly because of the military discount Glock offers active military.
Thanks Snakeye. The 19 is nearly identical to the 17. A bit more compact and holds 15 rounds in the mag instead of 17 -- otherwise the same beast. Our Blackwater instructors sported the 19 exclusively and could hit almost anything -- moving or not -- at 50-yards +. Most of the competition guys like the longest sight radius allowable under the size rules, and since portability isn't a factor, they often opt for the model 34 which has the same lower reciever as a 17 but a slightly longer barrel and slide.
Glad to have you here. Already getting great stuff.
Like my photography, I am easily the worst shooter on the blog.
But if I can't jam the glock, it can't be done.
I just bought an Insight Technologies XTI Procyon light for my Glock 23. Blinding light, plus a strobe mode.
I also recently used the 23 to qualify for the NRA pistol course certificate.
Chris: Very cool. For our readers, the Glock 23 is the compact .40-cal model. I'll have to check into the light. The strobe is supposed to be disorienting to an attacker and it's something I'd definitely recommend for a home defense weapon. The last thing you want is to be stumbling around in the dark hald asleep at 2:00am shooting the dog by mistake.
Good post.
I have 2 M&Ps, a 45 full size and a 40C, which I bought in early 08. I had a feed issue with the compact and S&W paid for the shipping and fixed it free.
I have had no reliability or accuracy issues with either gun since the return of the compact. I own a number of handguns, but no Glocks because they don't fit my hand and I mainly shoot cast lead reloads. The Glocks that I have fired have worked just fine, I just prefer other brands.
It is always best to go with the originals and the leaders. If you want a polymer framed gun, Glocks are simply the best overall. If you don't want "tupperware" than get a 1911. 'Nuff said. My Glock 19 was my first gun and I wouldn't do anything different, 1000s of rounds later.
I have an M&P9, have well over 1000 rounds through it. Yet to have a single issue. I am shocked you had these issues especially with the customer service. I sent my M&P in to have my warren tacticals sights mounted, they paid the shipping and didnt even charge me for the install as well as polished the feed ramp. The trigger sucks but after 1000 gets much better..not so crunchy! The gun fits my hand well!! I like the low bore axis like the glock but was unable to get comfortable with the glock. I struggled with the grip angle and absolutely hated the sights! But I still am a glock fan. It is an amazing and proven platform. But it had its problems in its earlier generations more so then the M&P. It is unfortunate you had such a bad experience I am yet to hear of one except yours.
I have demoed the Beretta PX4, XD(m), Glock, Sig P226, and more. What it boiled down to was how it fit my hand. I can sight it fast. The M&P took the cake. As for the other hear are some of my opinions based on my experience ist hand with each.
The XD(m) has a high bore...second shots were a little tougher to recover from. This gun has every bell and whistle you can think of! Many are gimmicks. It is built well and I like how the trigger comes from the factory. I also like the sights.
The PX4 was my initial first pick but I past on it after I shot the M&P. The PX4 fit my hand well and I really liked the built quality! The design is also pretty sharp in my opinion. Grip was nice.
Glock, I just shot it terrible...couldnt get use to the Sights nor the blocky style or the grip angle. I could never get a feel for the goal post style sights. I would have to do Segvey sights. I shot it 3 seperate times each with 100 rounds. This was the one I went in wanting as well as the XD(m). Many of my police buddies tote a glock everyday...they have all said the same thing...it was the gun that broke their cherry so it is the one they are the most familiar with. I think it is the most reliable polymer pistol ever made. They revolutionized the market forever!
The Sig...pass, shot it terrible...but did shot the P250 really well!! It is also very expensive compared to the others. The P250 is cheaper But it also felt cheap for a sig...real cheap. Tons of plastic!
I even put a 100 through a Beretta 92FS, my thought's, buy a 1911 if you like the 92FS...it is nothing more than a wanna be! I shot the colt the best of anything I have ever shot...everything...get a springfield 1911, they are affordable!!!
I spent too much time at Gat Guns (My Local shop) as well as money! But all guns were given at least 100 rounds some 200 before I narrow my field down. They do a factory shot so no rental fees...but lines get crazy! To each their own and with any platform they all have their lemons. I believe you had yours with the M&P. I certainly hope I dont. And I have shot a few Action Shooting Comps with no problems...but I still suck! However got new Hi-Viz front and a 10-8 rear...that is a major game changer! I am faster and substantially more accurate! Plus I now have glasses! So my accuracy is really gone up!!!! This year I should tear it up with the M&P9...time for a trigger job! I like the glock but the M&P is certainly not as bad as your experience.
You did adopt early as many who did with the glock and they experienced the same if not worse. It is unacceptable but it does happen and it is too bad the company blow their support as well...a double whammy! If you want to give it another chance shot mine...the offer is out there for ya. Just let me get the trigger done. this way I believe you will really like it!
I had the same experience after buying the Springfield XD 45 Service model and shooting it for a Summer head-to-head with my Glock 21. The Springfield is a fine weapon, but more compilcated and harder to clean than a Glock. It got traded, and I'm still enjoying life with my big clunky Glock.
I am a Blackwater alumni and I can't tell you how great the Glock is! I got my first Glock in 1994 and it's still going strong with 145000 rds later! I own a few high end 1911s " you can have em" the M&P is crap, seen to many problems overseas with them. The XD is super delicate and complicated " could not even pass the military sand test" And the biggest piece of shit? Without a doubt, H&k super complicated, super expensive, failed at just about every test we put them through. 1911 guys,, please, it is a great gun, but don't tell me you're Ford model T is better than my 2012 Mercedes Benz! Traditionalist Purist,, whatever you call you're selfs , wake up! My Glock .45 with 14 rounds and 10 times the toughness and easier to take care of, also easier to cary, and did I mention 10 times tougher, and hardly ever need's cleaning? By the way, I am a 1911, H&K, Beretta, Glock, M-16/M-4, Mossberg Armorer. Glock rains supreme! The colt .45 , M-1911 and now the Glock are the most important handguns ever made, the Glock will be bettered some day, but not any time in my life time! Eat poo Glock haters!
Most of the people prefer Glock because of their discount packages.
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