Wednesday, May 07, 2008

Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm – Perfect Pistol or Polymer Poseur?

Here is another from Elton at large...

After pumping 1,500 rounds through a Beretta 92FS over a 3-day training course with minimal cleaning I can officially confirm the weapon as a trusty workhorse. I never had a single malfunction, jam, or misfire and could consistently place 5 well-aimed shots through a single ragged hole in the center-of-mass of a head-shaped silhouette at 7-yards using Winchester “white box” off the shelf ammo. But toward the end of my class, I noticed I was getting beaten from the draw during man-on-man steel plate challenges by Glock-toting companions due to my delayed double-action first shot (see previous post).

When I suffered the same first-shot blues during my first USPSA shooting match the next month, I was suddenly in the market for a modern polymer handgun with a consistent trigger pull. I talked to a dozen or more guys at the club, range, and Blackwater training site before I settled on three leading contenders: the Springfield XD, Glock, and Smith & Wesson M&P.
I test fired all of these models in different variants over a period of months. All had their merits but I was truly smitten with the ergonomics and shootability of the M&P. One of the newest pistols on the market, Smith & Wesson is heavily touting their ground-up design based on extensive user research in creating a safe, versatile, and reliable firearm for personal and professional use After extensive testing, several law enforcement agencies including Colorado Springs, Atlanta, Charlotte and Syracuse Police Departments have chugged the Kool-Aid and adopted the platform as their official weapon.

Endorsed to me personally by at least one former Glock-toting ex-Marine, leading IDPA shooter, and fellow “born in the USA” advertising blitz believer, I figured I had a winner. I found the M&P at a local dealer for $499 sporting a $50 promotional rebate and 2-free magazines. After some quick math, I figured a $650 weapon with $60-worth of mags for $450 was the steal of the century and bought it on the spot. After my mandatory 72-hour Illinois waiting period (can someone tell me what the background check for our Firearm Owner ID Card – or FOID – is for if they’re just going to re-check us anyway?) I eagerly unpacked my M&P and headed for the range.

My pistol came with two magazines and three interchangeable backstraps to fit a variety of hand sizes (see photo). Once tuned, it’s one of the most comfortable grips I’ve felt on a mass production gun. The design supports a pronounced 1911-like beavertail which limits the slide bite if you really choke up on your hold. The rest of the grip is well-angled and has a rounded, form-fitting feel unlike the two-by-four handle on your average Glock. The magazine and slide releases seem perfectly positioned and easily accessible without being in the way or prone to accidental triggering.
Shooting is equally comfortable and controllable. Recoil is average and second shot placement is very manageable – possibly due to the excellent ergonomics. Magazines fly out of the grip like an ejector seat on a jet fighter making re-loads a snap.

After some drills, though, I noticed the trigger was quirky. It was relatively heavy to start with (I’m guessing 7-8 lbs) and had the tendency to do an annoying “false”, two-stage reset as opposed to the Glock’s solid and comforting thunk. Some users have suggested it’s just a break-in question, while I opted to go a little further and do my own partial trigger job (see next post).
I also ended up installing a fiber optic HighViz front sight with a Warren Tactical rear for better target acquisition. I like the combo of the glowing red-dot which naturally draws your focus to the front sight where it belongs, coupled with a plain molded black rear which makes picking up silhouette targets intuitive (see photo).

After a winter’s-worth of range time, I was ready for my first real test – a steel-plate man-on-man challenge to kick off the summer shooting season. During the match I had two malfunctions – basically misfires which required me to re-rack the gun in the midst of the competition. Talk about disappointing! Despite good ammo and full cleaning, I’ve tracked the problem down to a slide that intermittently stops short of full-forward. After talking with some other guys at the meet, they related similar problems including the aforementioned false trigger reset and light striker misfires. One guy was an avid M&P fan and owns two at home -- but shoot his Sig for competition which has got to tell you something. I ended up tied for third out of 14 despite the problems. The winner shot a stock Glock in .40 cal.

I don’t know if my problems are just bugs from an initial production run, but I’d question the wisdom of adopting a newcomer for public police use versus a firearm with 20 years of reliable service and kinks fully worked out. I’ll take the M&P back to the shop under Smith & Wesson’s lifetime warranty, but not before I pick up an old trusty. Stay tuned for a review on the Glock 17.

13 comments:

Dan from Madison said...

Cool post Elton! Just one question, is this 9mm or .40?

Dan from Madison said...

Duh, I just looked at the title of the post...

Annie said...

Awesome info!
Make sure the review of the G17 gets posted here, too!
I have my reasons :D

Zaakir Abdullah said...

Awww you poor Illinois people. Here in Ohio I walk in, plop down my credit card, they call the feds, and I'm out the door in 10 minutes. Hehe, had to rub it in.

Anyhow, I think you got new old stock. The initial MPs had light primer strike issues. Smith has since fixed the problem. You should be good to go when its repaired.

Im my opinion the MP9 trumps the Glock 17 all day long. Better ergonomics, lower recoil, better OOTB sights, no funky awkward grip angle, and a better OOTB trigger.

Im subscribing to see how you like the G17.

Elton at Large said...

Thanks Zaakir and Annie. Tomorrow I'll have both to test side-by-side... stay tuned for the G17 review next week!

Gerry from Valpo said...

Good to see another who respects the Glock for what it is. Modern technology has a way of intimidating a lot of gun folks.

Michael said...

Thanks for the review, I'm looking for a mid size 9mm. I have a friend who owns a glock 40 cal and says it's extremely accurate. I have limited funds (wife and six little ones) and want to buy once.Thought about the 34 and now the 17 in the glock. This weapon would be for me (6'3", 225) and my wife (5'2",130).

Thanks,
Michael

Anonymous said...

...Just wanted to know the difference between the 17 and the G17, could someone help?

Thanks,
Michael

Barry said...

Just for everyone's information Smith may have corrected the problem with the M&P according to a lot of folks, but I am here to tell you even now, the M&P is still tainted with problems that I have never had from any of the Glocks that I own.

Anonymous said...

i own a m&p 9 and after 400 round the trigger is great and it performs flawlessly ime at 12k rounds now

Erik said...

Hey carl I also picked up an M&P after visiting the folks up at East Dundees GAT Gun factory shoot. I shoot damn near ever 9mm polymer piston they had. My two buddies picked up guns one an XDM the other a PX4 Storm. I shot the M&P considerably better but now need to get sights. How do you like your warren tactical sights (I am looking at the Ameriglo and the Dawsons as well), also your M&P since your misfire? I am shocked that happened. Let me know. I am in the northwest Burbs always looking for someone to shoot with especially someone who shoots an M&P...can talk shop better. My XDM buddies are too high and mighty...they dont shot that great considering how much more time they spend on the range. Send me an email

austinjn said...

What production dates are affected by the light striker problem? I am looking to buy an M&P 9mm and want to be sure I am getting the benefit of any changes SW made

Erik said...

Even if you get one that has a clip drop or striker issue, Smith and Wesson has the best Customer Service of any manufacturer!!! The gun is warrantied for life!!! It is a fairly new gun for Smith they wanted something to compete with the Glock and they found it. It was introduced in 2007 so as when glock was introduced way back when it hads its bugs...they were far from perfect but as time went by they worked them out. The M&P did some great things...changeable grips, stainless everything, lifetime warranty, it fits my hand better has an excellent point of aim point of impact sight and for me it is not overly blocky like the glock or the XDM. I think you will love it. Needs about a 1000 rounds thru it before the trigger starts feeling nice...the range gun I shot had a very smooth trigger and when I got my new M&P it was stiff and not smooth at all. Get Sights for it right away. Warren Tacticals or Heinie Straight Eights...either with Tritium or not...the 2 dot is perfect and you will shoot really well with it a nice setup for IDPA comps as well as Home Defense!!! Enjoy. Elton Point of Aim Picture has Warren Tactical no tritium with a fiber optic front...great for day but useless at night if something goes bump in the night. just my 2 cents. I am not a pro but I did shoot over 20 different 9mm before I settled on this one. I was also considering the PX4 and the CZ P-07 Duty. Oh and if you get the M&P before April 30th you get 2 free mags for it. Nice deal for what you get.